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Today’s episode was recorded back in November 2020, and was actually the first episode recorded for the new CEO Psyche podcast. And I feel like that’s important to mention because after we recorded this episode I felt like it helped more clearly define my vision for the new podcast. It helped my brain in filling in the open space, it made it tangible.
Jodi-Kay Edwards is a Business + Visibility Coach – and she teaches soulful systems + strategies to turn your content into cash flow. And even though this episode is not about her best content tips, in our conversation today, she IS the embodiment of complete and total vulnerability, visibility, and authentic leadership.
Everything shared in this episode is all for your consideration. This is your invitation to open your mind and challenge certain beliefs you may hold as we dig deep into thinking from a perspective that is beyond our own.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- How to distinguish between two sides of the same safety/fear, and how to prevent fear from showing up in our actions.
- Inspiring change through one-on-one conversations – (It’s not always what you say or do, but also HOW you say and do it!)
- How to integrate behavioral flexibility and holistic leadership to make an impact & make a difference.
JODI QUOTES:
On Holistic Leadership: “We want to put leaders out into the world. We want to serve and sell – but also – make an impact and make a difference.”
“How can I not? How can I not think about someone else? When we’re looking at building inclusive communities, it starts with: thinking from a perspective that is beyond our own. A question that I get asked a lot is: ‘How do I?’ ‘How do I?’ But, I am always asking myself this question: How can I not?”
“When we’re looking at diversity and inclusion, and we’re looking at, just, having more conversations like this, being comfortable with the differences of other people, having that flexibility, and being more open minded — it starts at home.”
“People are kind of settling with this: ‘I don’t know how to do this, so, I’m just not going to do this’ or ‘I’m afraid to use my voice’ or ‘I’m afraid of getting it wrong,’ like, it’s okay. I get things wrong. Other people get things wrong. There’s no perfect route. This is something – we’re forging a new path – this has never been done before. And, that should be something that – we feel empowered to be a part of this change.”
“There is a right and a wrong way – but – often it’s not the way that you think, that’s stopping you from using your voice. So when you’re coming from a place of wanting to understand on a deeper level, when you’re not just looking for an easy way out, when you’re not just asking for answers, when you’re actually doing the work – that’s when it becomes okay to go forth and use your voice from an authentic standpoint.”
“To be a leader means that we have to ruffle feathers to see change. We have to stay consistent with our message, in order for more people to hop on board to see your consistency, so they can also feel inspired to stay consistent with that.”
“Let me say this: EVERYONE’S quality of life matters.”
“There is learning, and un-learning to do.”
JEN QUOTES:
“Everything shared in this episode is all “for your consideration.” It might not make sense right now. This is an invitation to be open, to challenge certain beliefs you might hold. You may experience “Cognitive Dissonance” which can happen when allowing new information into your brain.”
“You are on the same page. You have the same values, but different ideas about how that value is going to be achieved. And, if you would take a moment to have the behavioral flexibility, to put yourself in each-other’s shoes. You don’t have to agree with each other. This isn’t about dropping your beliefs and necessarily picking someone else’s up. But it’s about. I think, the willingness to be able to say ‘I will take a moment to look. I will pause and observe what it might be like, for you.’ And, hopefully that offers an example of what we’re really talking about here.”
PRE-EPISODE SHARE:
I had heard Jodi on a podcast earlier this year and I just adored her energy. There was just that inner knowing that she was someone I needed to follow. No one officially introduced us, but somehow we connected in the DM’s and we just started having these powerful, deep convos around relationships, plant medicine, our deeper missions, racism, and how we see prejudice and racism showing up in our industry in both blatant and more nuanced, subtle ways.
I shared with her that last year. I spoke on an amazing stage in front of 600 entrepreneurs. One of the best days of my life.
Afterwards, I was standing outside, when a young woman in hijab came over to thank me for my presentation.
And I was all – it’s so amazing to meet you! I’m so glad you came over! It’s so amazing to see you and all the other Hijabi women at the event.”
She was looked at me – with perhaps surprise or confusion and said, “Oh, wow, you know the word Hijabi!”And I laughed and said, “Yeah, my brother and SIL are Muslim, and my SIL wears Hijab.”
Now, for context, my mom was raised Jewish, my dad was raised very Catholic, And when I say he’s Muslim, he not only converted in high school, but, in true Casey fashion, — created an educational YouTube channel, (which back in the 2010’s had over 25k subscribers,) and at that time, in the US there was SO much misinformation being spread around and a lot of Islamophobia. To this day he has a Facebook page @dawahaddict with over 250,000 organic followers.
So, standing outside and this lovely young woman went on to share how she has a difficult time at events where there is a lot of hand shaking or hugging, (as many Muslims don’t make physical contact of the opposite sex, which is not exclusive to Islam,) —
— and how many of the evening networking centers around drinking, and many Muslims do not drink alcohol.
Even though I’m not Muslim, I shared that my brother and my SIL have experienced a lot of similar things in professional settings — and that that made me even more grateful that her and the Hijabi women were there, not only because it was beautiful to see diversity in the room and more Muslim women creating online business —
— but because I know one day my niece, who is one amazing little pupper, is going to walk into a room in a professional setting…
She’s Indian/Spaniard/Irish, Muslim, and may choose to wear a hijab when she’s older.
Now, I can’t change every industry…
So, I shared this with Jodi. And she said – wow. Have you ever shared this story? And I said I have in posts, but never on the podcast.
And she encouraged me to share this story and communicate this as a part of my personal mission. And from there, as the conversation continued, I asked Jodi if she would do an episode with me to share her thoughts on all of this, as a Jamaican Immigrant, Military Vet, and Boss Business Owner.
And thankfully she said yes, and we hit record on what is one of the most raw, honest episodes I think either of us have ever been a part of. So this feels really important, and really special, and I am just beyond grateful that she gave me this nudge to share my story, and that she agreed to come on and share her beautiful story and insights.
Meet Your Podcast
Host & Guest
JEN CASEY
Jen Casey is a brain-based business coach, speaker, & host of the top-rated CEO Psyche Podcast. Through her signature program, Primed to Buy, Jen teaches her brain-based approach to designing launch content that gets clients excited to buy before enrollment even opens!
When Jen isn’t working, you can find her jamming out to Broadway soundtracks, becoming best friends with every dog she meets, & introvert-ing on the couch with her fiancé, Michael.
JODI-KAY EDWARDS
Jodi-Kay Edwards is the founder of Alignment Is The New Hustle, a business strategy and personal development brand helping entrepreneurs build profitable businesses in a soulful way. She is a firm believer in mixing the woo with the do and that when your inner work meets your outer work you’re on your way to creating magic.
Her mission is to empower entrepreneurs worldwide to create lucrative lives and businesses so they can grow their impact and income in a way that is unique to them.
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